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poremba

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2011-02-08 12-22-34

Wondering had you guys heard this story and what you think? True? Possibly true? Utter BS? Political BS? Some combination? I'm not yet sure what to think. It is a great way to sway people true or not though.
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2011-02-10 8-53-56-

what sort of website is that? and on a totally unrelated topic, I finally Netflixed Michael Moore's 'Sicko' this past weekend. It's a must-rent. Did anyone else see it?
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2011-02-11 10-33-35

not 100% sure and no Im not bashing her. I'm just wondering what people think.. slow fo' day and all. It's been out there awhile now I guess, this is from 2005: I imagine any time a woman is strong over a particular threshold that someone will point and suggest lesbianism. Just making conversation.......
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2011-02-12 4-11-13-

Wow! Somehow, that would explain a lot. I wonder if it's true? Damn. I can see the Republican campaign already: Gays and Muslim terrorists are trying to take over the white house!
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    borawski

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    2011-02-13 6-42-01-

    Political BS. She went to Wellesley, she's not 'girlie,' she talks like a sailor ergo she must be gay! Based on the comments on that blog, this is the way some straight men deal with a woman with power, by marginalizing her. I hate misogyny.
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  • abdenace

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    2011-02-24 17-59-12

    totally. I mean, how dare women be strong hence the comments about fat thighs and her being like a bitchy mom. Really I hate that a lot. You don't hear the male candidates getting comments like that. No says that Obama has big ears, they talk about his platform. Yet against Hillary the best they have is fat thighs and lesbian? lame.
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    2011-03-24 6-03-24-

    Obama did have to get through the "Is he black enough?" crap, but its been nothing compared to what Clinton x has faced, even going back to 'x when Clinton x was running.
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    2011-05-19 1-35-24-

    He's biracial and he brings that up often She can't be "half male".
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  • baier

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    2011-06-02 16-40-59

    oh I dunno, isn't being lesbian sorta like being half male?? I kid, of course!
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    2011-07-18 2-41-33-

    Good one He's managed to both -transcend race through his personal charisma and intelligence. -turn his biracial heritage in to a plus as the potential leader of a multicultural, pluralistic society. He mentions his parents in speeches as well as his diverse family (which includes other races through marriage as well). She has a Catch x -Intelligence and charisma are seen as masculine qualities. Her good qualities are read as mixed gender signals not qualities that might transcend gender. -She tries to present her combination of "masculine" and "feminine" virtues as a plus but androgyny is less accepted as a virtue than multiculturalism is. Male politicians including Bill can use stereotypiy feminine qualities, empathy, sensitivity etc. but women displaying stereotypiy masculine qualities are seen as aggressive or threatening.
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    Shih-Dar

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    2011-07-27 1-47-10-

    I was thinking about this today She also can't show any kind of perceived weakness because how many people will say: I told you a woman couldn't handle this job. In her effort to show NO weakness, she has come off as wooden. I think this is why the crying bit actually made an impact on the primaries. I hear this guy cries regularly. He's the rightest of the right. A snake, actually.
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    2011-08-29 12-50-21

    did you just say "intelligence is seen as a stereotypiy masculine quality" -- ? I'm sure you meant "by the ignorant hick majority" or some such qualifier, but even then I don't think there are many people so ignorant they think intelligent women do not exist, even if they may think they (we? :) are rare. It might be that sexism makes people /not trust/ a woman who seems smarter than they are, whereas they are OK with the idea of trusting a /man/ who may be smarter than they are. Bad as that is, it's a slightly different angle than the simple "intelligence is a male thing". Or am I the deluded one?
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  • droddy

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    2011-10-17 19-35-56

    Or comments on what they wear. The other day the female DJ was criticizing Hill's choice of brown clothes and said her necklace looked like a tourist souvenir you buy on the side of the road. Speaking of misogyny... We had to share our office with some other workers today. was a manager. I cleared off my bosses desk for him and started telling him he could use this office and he said "yeah yeah...whatever..." He was more distracted than dismissive but still, no "thank you" or even looking me in the freaking eye. Then later this made me want to kick him: He was stepping out of the office, to pee I think, and said,"I'll be right back. Are you ladies going to do some husband bashing while I'm gone?" Or "You can do your husband bashing while I'm gone" or something similar. While my jaw dropped, the other women had some sort of lamely humorous acknowledgment like "not today". His statement infuriated me. Am I over-reacting?
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    2011-12-13 19-17-44

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    2011-12-22 22-43-34

    The debate where Edwards and Obama ganged up on her together ( which included making fun of her clothes and "niceness" ) was the only time I would have voted for her over either of them. Anybody who works in a male dominated field has been in that position: where the boy's club gangs up on you and circles like jackels. Except I can make fun of them and she had a TV camera in her face.
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    2012-01-26 3-51-38-

    I don't remember anyone making fun of her clothes. And she was sure quick to complain the "boys are picking on meeeeeeee because I'm a giiirrrrlll." How about they were challenging her IDEAS.
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    2012-03-27 17-58-51

    Oh yeah! I remember that. That pissed me off when Edwards made that comment. That wasn't the time they all "ganged up" on her.
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    2012-06-13 15-55-25

    Well I guess Obama made a gentlemanly save after Edwards's joke. No it was a later debate when they seemed chummy and it looked like they were both going after her. Though that could have just been Edwards hoping for a vice presidential pick. I don't really think of Obama as that sort of person normally. He has a very egalitarian feeling about him.
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    I watched the that debate, too. And I felt that the majority of what they said was valid argument.
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    Maybe Edwards just wanted VP or is madly in love with Barak.
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